Made to Make
Made to Make (formerly Painterly Life) is a podcast series about creativity across disciplines—and the resilience it takes to keep going.
On this channel, you’ll find honest conversations with artists, musicians, songwriters, photographers, producers, and makers of all kinds as they share their creative process, personal challenges, and what keeps them creating through uncertainty, doubt, and change.
This isn’t about hacks, overnight success, or perfect routines. It’s about the real work of living a creative life—the setbacks, breakthroughs, persistence, and the deeply human pull to make things.
If you’re a creative navigating the long road, questioning your path, or looking for meaningful conversations about art and life, you’re in the right place.
🎨 Expect stories that heal, tips that empower, and creative energy to fuel your soul.
🖌️ New episodes on the first and third Thursday of the month—because every guest is a new muse, just for you.
Made to Make
Latest Episodes
How Denise Hall Built an Art Career Without Ever “Having Time”
In this heartfelt and inspiring conversation, artist and teacher Denise Hall opens up about her creative journey—from sketching from the family Bible as a child to building a life centered on art, family, and perseverance. Denise shares how she...
From Depression to Healing: How Creativity Changed David Sandum’s Life
Most people think creativity comes from talent or inspiration — but for artist David Sandum, it’s been a deep, healing journey shaped by depression, trauma, and rediscovery. When life’s darkest moments hit, he turned to art, transforming pain i...
Diane Breuer: Creativity Across Continents
Discover how Diane Breuer’s international artistic journey shaped her unique style, her approach to fostering creative communities, and her advice for tapping into your own creativity—regardless of experience level. This episode offers inspirin...
Colette Lafia: Art as Prayer~The Creative Process as a Path to the Divine
In this episode of the Made to Make Podcast, host Shannon Grissom talks with spiritual director and author Colette Lafia about the powerful connection between creativity and spirituality. Together they explore how creativity can b...
It’s Never Too Late to Create: Storytelling, Creativity, and a Navy Veteran’s 50-Year Journey with John Chadwell
What does a lifetime of storytelling look like?In this episode of the Made to Make Podcast, host Shannon sits down with Navy veteran, journalist, and author John Chadwell to explore a creative journey that spans decades—from milit...
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